ps4 Pfister Supercup (Squirrel)

[Crawford1872 2,587]

As long as everyone remembers they're no Max fucking Verstappen into the first corner we should be sound 

[Potato 922]

1 hour ago, zmurko said:

Just gotta be patient and wait until the car in front enters the chicane late and be ready to pounce then with a nice cutback on the exit.
Or exit the last chicane before the hairpin much better then the car in front, catch up and fight for it in the hairpin.
Or get the speed up on them in the hairpin (better exit) and use it to your advantage for a better entry into the last chicane.
I can also tell, there's gonna be a lot of cars going wide in the first long right hander, where you can overtake them on the inside and cut in front of them on the exit.

At least that's my plan in theory. Can't do any of that without a decent pace.

 

All good in theory mate, didn't work in practice, I've been stuck behind people for ages when practicing, they turn into the chicanes late but then cut across the racing line on the exit and I don't feel like getting taken out thanks

only place I've been overtaking people consistently is the run out of the final corner

[BRacer 61]

New hotlap on Montreal ;).

[Squirrel 5,180]

1 minute ago, BRacer said:

New hotlap on Montreal ;).

Gauntlet, thrown. 

[djw180 7,005]

This is no criticism of BRacer, I'm just trying to confirm what is and isn't within the track limits. On the video he has all 4 wheels outiside the white lines on right hand turn before the final straight (video time 1:00). Is that OK? I have been struggling to work out how best to take that final right - left, and so far have been aiming to keep off the gray area outide the red & white.

[Crawford1872 2,587]

Deffo the fastest way of doing that corner, personally don't see anything wrong with it, but it'd be good to get some confirmation either way 

[Squirrel 5,180]

The checkpoints have been finely tuned on the chicanes, if you get the checkpoint then it's fine. If you cut too much then you miss the CP. All depends on how much you are willing to push it. 

[BRacer 61]

I tried to make lap time cleaner as possible. if you see that i cut, surely on this track make me lose those milliseconds as these corners tend the car lose traction for the final corner.

On another note, track is already made to not kerb boost or whatelse. It's up to you find the limits, but as i do i may mistake and miss a checkpoint. This was a "hotlap", if we go in a race i wouldnt make a hotlap and risk to miss CP.

[Potato 922]

I don't agree with the way corner cutting rules are changed from race to race -.-

[Squirrel 5,180]

Generally we are trying to avoid cutting. @no_snacks has made the track to penalise drivers who cut too much. On most tracks we will have to police it more but it's a lot easier with this track as it has the limits clearly defined. 

Also with all the tracks being different what is acceptable on one track may not be allowed on another. It's the same in F1. They always change the acceptable limits on where you can and can't leave the track. Some courses have a lot of open areas compared to other street style circuits. When we go the next open circuit we'll be going over to see what is classed as corner cutting there. 

Edited June 12, 2017 by Squirrel

[Potato 922]

Yeah he made it so that if you cut the corner you miss the checkpoint. Everyone complained they were missing the checkpoints so he moved them and now you're saying you're allowed to cut the corner as long as you hit the checkpoint. When in reality there is no reason whatsoever to go over a kerb at any point on this track.

[Squirrel 5,180]

1 minute ago, Potato said:

Yeah he made it so that if you cut the corner you miss the checkpoint. Everyone complained they were missing the checkpoints so he moved them and now you're saying you're allowed to cut the corner as long as you hit the checkpoint. When in reality there is no reason whatsoever to go over a kerb at any point on this track.

He's moved them slightly to have a bit more margin for error. As long as you hit the checkpoint it's fine for Canada . I think that has been the general consensus throughout. We won't have the same level of creator control for every track so more defined limits will have to be applied

[JuniorChubb 3,360]

 

29 minutes ago, Potato said:

Yeah he made it so that if you cut the corner you miss the checkpoint. Everyone complained they were missing the checkpoints so he moved them and now you're saying you're allowed to cut the corner as long as you hit the checkpoint. When in reality there is no reason whatsoever to go over a kerb at any point on this track.

This is the only CP I was missing (only when I pushed it), I never looked back at my footage to see if I was taking the piss or not though. I know props are sparse and its is too late in the day but I feel a prop is the only consistent way to stop corner cutting at that spot as CP's seem to be inconsistent.

I feel what you are saying about the changes but I think we are just suffering from trying to keep everyone happy and there is a little 'learn as we go' coming into play too as things get tweaked a little each round. It would be a tough call too make to leave the CP's how Snacks first placed them and risk causing complications in a series that IMO has got off to a good start.

Right now I am more concerned about getting round the first 3 corners on the first lap though, it would be nice to get to the CP of contention without leaving the track.

Edited June 12, 2017 by JuniorChubb

[zmurko 7,622]

I just got confirmation that cleaner (less kerb) is faster. Actually avoiding corner cutting (and unsettling your car) has payed dividents for me. Managed to get into high 1:06 first, then middle 1:06 and just managed a record lap for me with 1:06.07 and except going on the kerbs on corner exits to get a wider line out of them, I tried to avoid them at all costs.

Trying too hard and cutting corners and grabbing extra kerbs where it's possible has always produced unstable car and loss of speed (instead of boosts).

Looking forward to perhaps hopefully start in top 6 for once, just gotta get a clean lap in qualifying. 

 

[Squirrel 5,180]

1:07.4 my fastest now. Good target for those of us in the mid to back half of the field

I got 3 fairly consistent laps, my fastest of the 3 was the middle one which was also the lap where I used the least kerb.

PS4 decided not to save all the footage which is why there are a couple of skipped moments.

 

[Potato 922]

2 hours ago, Squirrel said:

On most tracks we will have to police it more but it's a lot easier with this track as it has the limits clearly defined. 

It's the same in F1. They always change the acceptable limits on where you can and can't leave the track.

Sorry if you feel like I'm personally attacking you, but I'm just gonna say it as it is...

You say the limits are clearly defined. Correct me if I'm wrong but surely where the track is place should be the limit of the track and not where checkpoints are placed?

Yes they allow leaving the track in F1, but not at Canada, and not on entry to chicanes so that you basically miss the corner. They allow you to run wide out of the exits of some corners and in F1 you don't get a 10mph speed boost for doing so.

You're acting like it's a hard thing to police, but it isn't. Stay within the track. No going over kerbs. 2 wheels inside the white lines at all times. This is something that @Fido_le_muet has said which you actually agreed with and is written in the rules of the competition on page 1 of this thread. You're just pussyfooting around the subject trying to make everyone happy contradicting yourself on a weekly basis and it's getting annoying.

If someone makes a mistake and turns in too early, it should be allowed. If they are constantly doing it and cutting corners during a race they should be disqualifed.

If someone makes a mistake and turns in too late, hitting the kerb on the exit, it should be allowed. If they are constantly doing it and kerb boosting through the race, they should be disqualifed. If said person is following someone when they get the kerb boost, they should back off and not overtake until the next corner at the earliest. If they overtake they should be disqualifed.

[Fido_le_muet 5,198]

I just hope I start on the right side of the grid tonight

[Squirrel 5,180]

@Potato Will be able to give you an indepth answer later, don't worry good points all well made and will get back to you later.

[Squirrel 5,180]

Canada Qualifying after grid drops  

1	madden141	01:06.405
2	Clydicality	01:06.833
3	Crawford1872	01:07.136
4	No_Snacks	01:07.164
5	Fido_le_muet	01:07.219
6	B Racer	01:05.211
7	acdc_sw	01:05.970
8	Random Potato	01:06.368
9	Mythaga	01:07.228
10	JC10110	01:07.285
11	Zmurko	01:08.933
12	Protocawl	01:09.044
13	Sagrawa	01:09.363
14	Junior Chubb	01:09.363
15	PaulieWantsBlood	01:09.623
16	Trashbags1980	01:09.900
17	djw180	01:10.336
18	Proxide	01:10.628
19	Omarcomin	01:10.472
20	SquirrelArmy	01:11.135
21	beez	01:11.399
22	Tremonius	01:13.239

Edited June 17, 2017 by Squirrel

[Fido_le_muet 5,198]

Must have fucked up something but couldn't save my video.

Got caught up in the first turn crash but it wasn't anybody's fault, just a racing incident. Then I crashed into Z who crashed in front of me (another racing incident, no complaints from me), I missed a CP and then I had a nice battle with Z at the end, which he won.

I don't have any issues to report, other than a suspicion during qualifying.

It was interresting to be in the field the whole race. A lot of action, lots of overtaking, crashing, trying to go back in front. Very cool racing. I hope I didn't screw up anybody's race.

@Trashbags1583070460 I passed you and a couple seconds after you disappeared. I hope I didn't hit you when overtaking. There was no contact on my screen but you never know. I wish I had my video, sorry again

[Crawford1872 2,587]

My race, nothing amazing there, some of it has skipped parts, just some shit driving by a tired bloke

 

 

Edited June 12, 2017 by Crawford1872

[zmurko 7,622]

Here's my PoV, so you can all file a complaint against me to the stewards.

(looks like video isnt completely processed yet, still only 360p available)

[Squirrel 5,180]

Provisional Results:

These will be subject to change, there are a number of incidents to be reviewed already and no doubt more to follow. 

[Mythaga 312]

Cheers Squirrel great fun as always!

Had a great battle with @Potato and @Realjaysee for the latter half of the race, just managing to sneak past JC on the last lap ?

Usually I would be satisfied with 5th (my default finishing position it seems lol) But can't help but feel disappointed I didn't finish a couple a places higher. Once again qualifying was not great, I had the race pace but got caught up in a couple of incidents early on which meant I was playing catch-up for the rest of the race.

Oh well onwards and upwards, look forward to the next round and don't forget the next round of the LSTCC on Wednesday ?

[Potato 922]

2 minutes ago, Mythaga said:

Cheers Squirrel great fun as always!

Had a great battle with @Potato and @Realjaysee for the latter half of the race, just managing to sneak past JC on the last lap ?

Usually I would be satisfied with 5th (my default finishing position it seems lol) But can't help but feel disappointed I didn't finish a couple a places higher. Once again qualifying was not great, I had the race pace but got caught up in a couple of incidents early on which meant I was playing catch-up for the rest of the race.

Oh well onwards and upwards, look forward to the next round and don't forget the next round of the LSTCC on Wednesday ?

Who knows, you might finish a couple of places higher...