Racing the Elegy ..any tips?

[handcuff_charlie 801]

Just do whatever Desuno does with his...seems to work ridiculously well for him

[The Rikster 53]

Just do whatever Desuno does with his...seems to work ridiculously well for him

If only I could .. Alas I can always wish

[JustHatched 12,123]

Just do whatever Desuno does with his...seems to work ridiculously well for him

Think I will try that.

[LN-MLB 2,583]

Just do whatever Desuno does with his...seems to work ridiculously well for him

 

I've tried, but that's a bit like saying, do what Michael Jordan does with a basketball.

 

Seriously, I've had him take me through courses in free roam (that he had memorized), and I still can't manage some of the lines he takes and keep up enough speed to ensure that I beat him by a long-shot.

 

Overall though, I think it's just all about practice and getting used to the car.  Like I said, I usually drive the Massacro when it comes to sports, and it handles and feels so much different compared to the Elegy.  When I switch to the Elegy, it often takes time to get used to its mechanics again.  I suppose you could always try driving nothing but the Elegy for a couple of weeks and see what happens.  Practice makes perfect things better.

[The Rikster 53]

I've tried, but that's a bit like saying, do what Michael Jordan does with a basketball.

 

Seriously, I've had him take me through courses in free roam (that he had memorized), and I still can't manage some of the lines he takes and keep up enough speed to ensure that I beat him by a long-shot.

 

Overall though, I think it's just all about practice and getting used to the car.  Like I said, I usually drive the Massacro when it comes to sports, and it handles and feels so much different compared to the Elegy.  When I switch to the Elegy, it often takes time to get used to its mechanics again.  I suppose you could always try driving nothing but the Elegy for a couple of weeks and see what happens.  Practice makes perfect things better.

I think that's what I'm gonna try LN , to try only the Elegy for a while in freeroam, missions and races. I'll probably either lose patience and get really bored with it or will finally find some pace with it .

Methinks also that what desuno did with taking you through the courses is probably really useful as I reckon the lines that some of the top racers take differentiates a good lap from a great lap

[handcuff_charlie 801]

Keep in mind the CP's extend quite a ways out from where you see the visual edge. They are just a tad under 5 traffic lanes wide. We tested it. You can shave tons of time by taking lines to straighten out corners as much as possible and keep speed up.

[desuno1 351]

There's two things about the Elegy that makes it very hard to beat on technical tracks with lots of turns, and that is its traction and acceleration. Learn to trust both the car and your driving and you've come a long way. I've noticed that most of the time you spin out in the Elegy is because you alter its traction by braking or letting go of the accelerator in the middle of the turn. Instead, let the car do what it's good at. And like always, try to take every turn as straight as possible.

Start out by going slow around a track, find lines you're comfortable with and then increase your speed lap by lap until you've pushed yourself and the car to the very edge, then you push it some more!

Edited August 6, 2014 by desuno1

[The Rikster 53]

Keep in mind the CP's extend quite a ways out from where you see the visual edge. They are just a tad under 5 traffic lanes wide. We tested it. You can shave tons of time by taking lines to straighten out corners as much as possible and keep speed up.

What's CPs HC? Corner points? Do u mean there's more room on each road to widen you're entry into the corner and also to carry more exit speed?

[desuno1 351]

What's CPs HC? Corner points? Do u mean there's more room on each road to widen you're entry into the corner and also to carry more exit speed?

Checkpoints.

[The Rikster 53]

There's two things about the Elegy that makes it very hard to beat on technical tracks with lots of turns, and that is its traction and acceleration. Learn to trust both the car and your driving and you've come a long way. I've noticed that most of the time you spin out in the Elegy is because you alter its traction by braking or letting go of the accelerator in the middle of the turn. Instead, let the car do what it's good at. And like always, try to take every turn as straight as possible.

Desuno thanks 4 the advice , it's good to hear from the speed demon himself

Do you find you have to brake earlier with the elegy and then straighten the car earlier and use the traction for greater exit speed ? Or is it that you can go through more corners with only balancing the throttle to carry more speed through the corners with this car?

[zmurko 7,622]

What's CPs HC? Corner points? Do u mean there's more room on each road to widen you're entry into the corner and also to carry more exit speed?

 

 

My artistic skills are limited, but its something like that. Red line would be if you actually had to touch the CP, but you can just go near it enough to "check" it, thus allowing you to go much closer to the apex and making a lot less sharper turn, allowing you to go faster (and actually makign a shorter trip at the end too).

 

[The Rikster 53]

Keep in mind the CP's extend quite a ways out from where you see the visual edge. They are just a tad under 5 traffic lanes wide. We tested it. You can shave tons of time by taking lines to straighten out corners as much as possible and keep speed up.

  

Checkpoints.

Oo ooh now I understand a little more , so do u mean that u don't always have to drive through the checkpoint marker itself? Ie sometimes if ur parallel to it u can go thru the checkpoint also.

I have found this , but on some checkpoints it works, on others I've found that if u do the same , then u have to go back and pass thru the checkpoint. It's v inconsistent

[The Rikster 53]

My artistic skills are limited, but its something like that. Red line would be if you actually had to touch the CP, but you can just go near it enough to "check" it, thus allowing you to go much closer to the apex and making a lot less sharper turn, allowing you to go faster (and actually makign a shorter trip at the end too).

 

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thanks Z sometimes a picture really helps but have u found also that this only works for some checkpoints than others ?

As there's been so many times that I do a track and get all excited that I can go thru a CP full throttle ( by not touching the CP) only to find that I've missed and then taking the walk of shame back to last as I have to go back and re enter it

[zmurko 7,622]

Yes, it has happened to me too, was practically near the cp, but it didnt count. I still dont know why, could have something to do with the direction of the CP (not chevrons, but re-spawning direction), dunno.

But if it's a well designed track you usually dont need to worry about it, unless you take some really extreme lines, like driving on the left pavement at the last CP in Miami Horror for example.

Edited August 6, 2014 by zmurko76

[desuno1 351]

Desuno thanks 4 the advice , it's good to hear from the speed demon himself

Do you find you have to brake earlier with the elegy and then straighten the car earlier and use the traction for greater exit speed ? Or is it that you can go through more corners with only balancing the throttle to carry more speed through the corners with this car?

Brake in, accelerate out. Braking points are very track dependent, but I usually brake later than most drivers, to keep the momentum going.

[rumdig 957]

Brake in, accelerate out. Braking points are very track dependent, but I usually brake later than most drivers, to keep the momentum going.

Also, by braking later this allows you to take the "late apex" line. This line is optimal for racing. The entry is slightly slower due to the late braking, however, you will exit the turn with more speed due to effectively having more of a straight acceleration line. This technique works wonders in GTA racing.

[The Rikster 53]

Also, by braking later this allows you to take the "late apex" line. This line is optimal for racing. The entry is slightly slower due to the late braking, however, you will exit the turn with more speed due to effectively having more of a straight acceleration line. This technique works wonders in GTA racing.

Brake in, accelerate out. Braking points are very track dependent, but I usually brake later than most drivers, to keep the momentum going.

My driving style is also normally late braking , but that's where I was initially having trouble getting speed out of the elegy as I had to brake earlier than I'd like to due to the cars weaker brakes .

But on another note am getting some brilliant pearls of racing wisdom from all of u guys , which I can't wait to put into practice

[rumdig 957]

One other small control technique...

Try to get the majority of your braking done BEFORE turning. Hitting the brakes hard while turning greatly increases the likelyhood of a spin out.

Once you're accustomed to that style, a more advanced technique is to apply less brake initially and gradually feather it during the initial turn. In doing so, more weight is transferred to the front wheels during the turn, thus providing more traction/grip.

All this is just theory and is often times not going to do you any good. Its all about what works for you (hearing what works for others is always helpful though)

[The Rikster 53]

One other small control technique...

Try to get the majority of your braking done BEFORE turning. Hitting the brakes hard while turning greatly increases the likelyhood of a spin out.

Once you're accustomed to that style, a more advanced technique is to apply less brake initially and gradually feather it during the initial turn. In doing so, more weight is transferred to the front wheels during the turn, thus providing more traction/grip.

All this is just theory and is often times not going to do you any good. Its all about what works for you (hearing what works for others is always helpful though)

Really helpful tips Rum, thank you

I think feathering the brakes in this game , I find a little difficult though as I find that the L2 button gives me no brake or 100% brake but nothing in between

[rumdig 957]

Yeah, I never said I could do it either

Lol. If only we all knew desunos' race lines...

Hey desuno, are you going to join DC in getting a capture card? That footage would be the pinnacle of learning

[handcuff_charlie 801]

  

Oo ooh now I understand a little more , so do u mean that u don't always have to drive through the checkpoint marker itself? Ie sometimes if ur parallel to it u can go thru the checkpoint also.

I have found this , but on some checkpoints it works, on others I've found that if u do the same , then u have to go back and pass thru the checkpoint. It's v inconsistent

 

It's actually really consistent, but it is difficult sometime to tell at speed how close to the CP you are. if you pass within 1 car-width of the visual edge of the CP you will always get it. Venture too much further than 1 car-width and you are pushing your luck. Again there is enough room for approximately one lane of traffic on either side of the visual circle...Desuno and I tested it together.

[The Rikster 53]

Yeah, I never said I could do it either

Lol. If only we all knew desunos' race lines...

Hey desuno, are you going to join DC in getting a capture card? That footage would be the pinnacle of learning

Lol DC and Desunos school of driving, I think I could see that really taking off

It's actually really consistent, but it is difficult sometime to tell at speed how close to the CP you are. if you pass within 1 car-width of the visual edge of the CP you will always get it. Venture too much further than 1 car-width and you are pushing your luck. Again there is enough room for approximately one lane of traffic on either side of the visual circle...Desuno and I tested it together.

HC that's actually REALLY useful to know ,so thank you , as it gives so much more leeway in racing lines around the corners,

But just to clarify you should be able to pass within 1 car width either side of the checkpoint right ?

[Beez 5,091]

I'm currently using the Elegy too because it was free and I like the Nissan GT-R. Good to know it is not hopeless in its class. Mine has some mods but at this point it's the racer not the race car.

 

I think one of my problems is I am braking too much and losing my drive. "Slow in, fast out." I'll bet I am mashing the brake in the excitement of the race where I need to be more progressive and smooth. Good to know the brake is progressive and not an on/off switch.

 

Practice, practice.

[Fido_le_muet 5,198]

A racing instructor once told me :

"You must sacrifice the entry if you want to succeed the exit"

Everytime I want to improve my time, I apply this technique and it always works.

[The Rikster 53]

I'm currently using the Elegy too because it was free and I like the Nissan GT-R. Good to know it is not hopeless in its class. Mine has some mods but at this point it's the racer not the race car.

 

I think one of my problems is I am braking too much and losing my drive. "Slow in, fast out." I'll bet I am mashing the brake in the excitement of the race where I need to be more progressive and smooth. Good to know the brake is progressive and not an on/off switch.

 

Practice, practice.

  

A racing instructor once told me :

"You must sacrifice the entry if you want to succeed the exit"

Everytime I want to improve my time, I apply this technique and it always works.

Yep have also heard the adage : slow in , fast out but it often goes out of the window in the heat of battle when u are wheel to wheel lol