T20 - Sell or Keep?

[LN-MLB 2,583]

Having owned the T20 for nearly a month now, I am seriously divided on what I would like to do with it.  Sure, it is supposedly the fastest car in the game, but I find myself constantly picking the Osiris when we compete in super car races.  Originally, I sold my Zentorno for the T20 and eh, I'm not interested in buying that again, so if I do decide to part with the T20, the Osiris would remain as the only super car that I own.

 

Super cars are by far my weakest class when it comes to racing, so shaving an extra tenth of a second off of a lap probably makes no difference to me here.  Personally, I don't like super cars at all, but at least one is definitely needed to stay competitive and not DNF when we race them.

 

I need want garage space and since I'm more of a classic car/muscle car kind of guy, I'm not really wanting to part with many or any of those unless it is absolutely necessary.

 

What do you guys think?  I personally like both the handling and look of the Osiris much more, but am I really missing anything if I decide to part with the T20?  I'm not lacking money, so that's not a factor--I would just like to know whether most here own one and prefer it for different reasons, own both and use both, or are simply uninterested or cannot afford either of them.

 

Thanks!

[Skorpion 2,527]

Right now I cant afford either and my performance in a Zentorno keeps me competitive against the Osiris and the T20. I see little difference in them when I see the lap times and finishing positions of those using them, even compared with the Zentorno as well.

I think its just a matter of which you prefer and which you drive better. Im considering an upgrade once Ive done the CMM (whenever that is), and am currently liking the Osiris for nothing more than having a tighter turning radius than the T20.

Id be interested to see what others think. To me, the handling of the car is the only thing that matters as each are competitive in speed and acceleration.

[ScottyB 2,086]

You answered the question yourself! No point keeping it if you don't like it.

 

I know Broughys videos are the go to thing but people are taking his tenth of a second as fact on the way it drives which isn't exactly true. He could have made a small error that caused that tenth of a second difference. He is only human after all, and not the fastest driver out there either.

 

Any kind of human error while driving either the zentorno, osiris or t20 will allow any of the other cars to win. So with that said, pick what car you can drive the fastest and more importantly the most consistently.

 

I'm in a similar situation though. I have a new character and don't know what super car to buy. I think I prefer the t20 but i will test them all out on my other character to make that decision and in the end i may just buy both anyway since money isn't that big of an issue any more.

[Chewy 612]

I suppose the questions is, are YOU faster in the T20? And if so, is it that much of a difference?

I personally prefer driving the Osiris too, but when I've tried to hot lap I've found myself quicker in the T20, sometimes by as much as 2 seconds over a lap, for that reason I'm going to force myself to try and use it more. Note: I would say I'm much more consistent in the Osiris.

Ultimately it's a video game that you play for fun, and for you and I mere mortals, LN, we have to accept we race against that likes of snacks, Scotty, DC and G, so just race what you enjoy racing in, or dislike the least. The difference between 4th and 5th isn't that much. Lol

EDIT drunk spelling.

Edited August 6, 2015 by Chewy

[Jaggy 2,811]

Not sure what you'd miss about it.  It's not even a pretty car.

 

I think some people get excited and buy every car, regardless of price, the day it releases.  I don't want to call it the bandwagon, but that's kind of what it seems like most of the time.  I've never owned a Zentorno and will never own a T20.  Only because I don't like the looks of either car.

 

If you don't like it, sell it.  If you rarely drive it, sell it.  If you don't like the way it handles, sell it. 

 

SELL IT.

 

Make room for a car that you will use more often.

 

EDIT TO ADD:  I have an Osiris which I never drive.  The Turismo is so much better for me.  Personal choice.  I can drive it better than all of my super cars.

Edited August 6, 2015 by Jaggy

[ScottyB 2,086]

Is suppose the questions is, are YOU faster in the T20? And if so, is it that much of a difference?

I personally prefer driving the Osiris too, but when I've tried to hot lap I've found myself quicker in the T20, sometimes by as much as 2 seconds over a lap, for that reason I'm going to force myself to try and use it more. Note: I would say I'm much more consistent in the Osiris.

Ultimately it's a video game that you play for fun, and for you and I mere mortals, LN, we have to accept we race against that likes of snacks, Scotty, DC and G, so just race what you enjoy racing in, or dislike the least. The difference between 4th and 5th isn't that much. Lol

EDIT drunk spelling.

 

Haha I was like, Damn i guess it is after midday here, and then realised you were on holidays

 

You raised another good question though. What is the most fun? A lot of people have also commented that the t20 feels slow, but they are driving better in it compared to the osiris.

 

Only you can answer what is more fun to drive, as they are both equally competitive. I think I would also prefer a car that I can consistently do well in over a best lap. For example, whats the point in getting a best lap once every 10 races when you could be finishing higher up or even first on a regular basis?

 

This was the case with me for the dominator over the blade. I couldn't handle the dominator for a long time. I could get faster overall laps but there was a much higher chance I would spin out and place very low. I ended up using it until I could handle it as the payout and challenge was worth it, but between the osiris and t20, the difference is negligible. 

[Torrid 653]

I'm in the same boat as you. I prefer the Osiris, but I end up using the T20 still pretty regularly but want room for more cars. Something looks off about it in game and it's not as attractive as its real life counterpart, but it's the only reason I have the car.

McLaren P1

Then again you have the Osiris. The front of the La Ferrari and the back of the most gorgeous supercar ever created, the Pagani Huayra.

[Fido_le_muet 5,198]

I keep it just for the looks and because its IRL counterpart is the McLaren P1.

On PS3, it's not competitive at all so I never use it in races (except against randoms for the fun )

I have a Turismo, Zentorno and T20 and only use the Zentorno in races.

If they fix the T20 on PS3, the Turismo will have to go.

I also have a Bullet but that's just for cruising

[djw180 6,977]

Like Fido says on the PS3 the T20 needs fixing. As far as I'm aware it's still the case that the dynamic spoiler is simply cosmetic, it doesn't actually do anything. From what others have posted here it seems the jury is still out on whether it's really worth it on the PS4.

 

The T20 is definitely good for one thing though; driving around in free-roam. If some annoying random decides to blow it up they get rather a large bill from Mors Mutual.

[Lann 10,846]

Well, I think the simpel and less fun answer is that whatever you feel you can handle better will be better choice as far as racing. If you like it as far as looks keep it as well.

 

But, its a game and I will give my personal advice Sell the Osiris, it looks odd and sounds like a Prius. Get a Vacca (yellow!) and a Turismo (red!) You will mostly look at the rear end of the car, and there are not better super rear ends than the Vacca, Turismo and maybe the T20.

Edited August 6, 2015 by Lann3

[grjkie 727]

the Osiris is a great car as well and if you don't like the T20 and/or never plan to drive it sell it, in my personal opinion both are great supers and I have them both, I usually drive the T20 in a race and I enjoy it

[zmurko 7,622]

Turismo FTW!

 

Looks best, sounds best, drives and handles best, only lacks some pace. Over several laps of pretty much any track, I'll probably still get the best overall time with a Turismo most of the time.

Osiris is good too, but not as consistent for me, I'll usually just oversteer it into a tree somewhere, where Zentorno, ... oh boy, I still feel like I have no control over that car most of the time, so I'll just knock down several lamp posts and/or wreck it in most races.

 

Haven't driven the T20, since it's "broken" on PS3.

 

It's a hard decision to sell a super car, since you "lose" a lot of money by doing so, but if you need space, just go for it. Doesnt look like you'll miss it much.

[LN-MLB 2,583]

I had a long response typed up this morning, but iPads suck and I wasn't able to recover it.

 

Anyway, thanks to everyone for their feedback regarding the T20.  Based on the poll and comments, it certainly looks as though I probably wouldn't miss very much if I decided to part with this car.  Before I make the big decision--I don't know why it is a big decision (but I sometimes struggle with letting go of cars)--I am going to use it in a few races this week to see just how well I perform with it.  My mind is all but made up, but I'll give it a couple of last attempts before I decide to send it away.  I used it in a stock version during a race last night and would have done fine had I not crashed into the median (which I blame not being able to see due to the night.)  Granted, Scotty is right in that I have pretty much answered my own question and since I have my doubts, I should just probably just go ahead and pull the trigger and be done with it.

 

I also agree with Jag--I'm guilty of buying most new cars upon release date and I think many of us seem to think the latest is always the best when it comes to cars like this one.  I also agree about the looks of a car--that is a huge factor for me, and the only reason I owned a Zentorno when I did was because that was pretty much the only car being used in super car races, and I found that I just could not keep up with any of the drivers in my old Entity.  I must admit though, I also owned a Turismo for a brief period of time, but I also did not care for its looks and did not perform that well with it as a whole.  Overall though, I don't like the way most super cars look with the exception of the Bullet and maybe the Vacca and Entity to an extent, and I know for a fact that using the Bullet would render me completely useless in all super car races.  The one thing that bothers me about the look of the T20 is that piece on the back under the window (spoiler?) that has a color which cannot be altered.  It just looks like an eye sore in the midst of the lava red paint job.

 

I admit it, I am very much a mere mortal and will constantly get beaten by racers such as DC or Desuno--even when they are driving a slower car, so keeping the T20 for a tenth of a second difference is quite pointless.  Also, again, I agree with Scotty in that Broughy may seem like the go to source for fastest lap times, but I have personally raced against him on a couple of occasions, and yes, he is very much human and is quite capable of making errors.  There are also a number of other factors that can come into play here--lag, the style of track, knowledge of the track, good days/bad days, and the list goes on and on.  The fact that all of the top three super cars are insanely close gives me even more reason to simply just choose the one I prefer overall and looks the best to me.

 

That really sucks though about the T20 being broken on PS3.  I thought they would have fixed that by now, but R* has seriously started to neglect problems on the older generation platform.  Even the creator is still semi-broken when creating races from what I have noticed.

 

Thanks again everyone for the great feedback.

Edited August 7, 2015 by LN-MLB

[FragTrap666 104]

They both have the same acceleration/top speed. T-20 has better braking and the Osiris better traction. Of course, these are based on R* stats which can be wrong.

 

Like others have said, it comes down to your driving style. I personally prefer the T-20 simply for the fact that it's engine actually sounds like a supercar.

[G37 3,445]

Honestly, you're splitting hairs and then splitting them again if you're talking about what's faster. And those times are so marginal that they don't really apply to folks like us. At all.

 

So go with whichever one is more comfortable to you.

[Prodigy_Rocks_ 231]

I like the Osiris better because I drive better with it then I do for the t20. I would sell it if I'm not doing well with and I've tried my best to get used to it.

[Mennosson 19]

I like the T20 but only use it in stockversion in races. I do not own one. But it is quite nice although I like the handling of the Entity and the Turismo better. The moving spoiler looks nice but seems to be a problem when braking for a corner.

But who am I to talk with my racingstats hahaha.

[LN-MLB 2,583]

I always like reading about other people's experiences and preferences.  We all have our own driving styles and find strengths where others find weaknesses and vice versa.  In my opinion, I think it's great--these cars are so close that it's refreshing that we are able to have these discussions and not feel that one is extremely overpowered while the other is extremely underpowered.

 

I still haven't parted with the T20 just yet.  In fact, I did some experimenting earlier, and the Osiris seemed to perform better for me on straights in regards to lap time, but oddly enough, the T20 did much, much better when it came to corners.  It may just be a matter of getting used to it, but I don't know how that happened--it just did, and getting rid of a car for me is much like buying a car in real life.  It's painful.

 

I'll probably end it up doing something with one or the other, but I actually gave in and sold my seldom used Gauntlet--that was tough with it being my first car and all, but I have made a bit more room in the garage, so we'll see what happens.  In the meantime, I'm going to drive both a lot more and just see what happens in the long run.

 

Thanks again, everyone.

Edited August 18, 2015 by LN-MLB

[ScottyB 2,086]

I was using the stock version of the t20 while I was levelling my character up because it had a spoiler and would be the fastest stock vehicle (haven't tested, just assuming) and it drives really well. So I bought it on my second character and now I don't really like it and will probably end up with the Osiris again.

The reason is that when the t20 is modified, it seems to under steer and it's turning circle isn't very good. On certain tracks with gradual bends it works better but anything with sharper corners, the Osiris should be easier to drive. It's something that you can get used to, but they are quite noticeably different when you're pushing it to the limits and it means you should be able to push the Osiris harder around a sharp bend.

It's a similar case to the jester and massacro in sports class. On tighter tracks, the massacro can go pretty hard if you know how to drive it but the jester will take the corners a bit more effortlessly since it has a better turning circle and it's all wheel drive.

[Torrid 653]

The funny thing is when I decided I wanted garage space and that I did decide I needed to sell one of my three supers. The Entity won out for me over the T20. It's all subjective and not based on performance and for some reason just didn't feel as special to me as the Entity and Osiris.